Re: Vorshlag 2018 Mustang GT + S550 Development Thread
Yes, turn ALL of the traction control systems off. Factory TC is good for randoms driving in mixed conditions, but REALLY slows you down on track with even a small amount of skill. It uses rear brake applications to keep the "yaw" and wheelspin down, as well as throttle pushback. KILLS rear brake pads on these car.
Sure, maybe if its raining and you don't feel comfortable pushing it in the wet, leave the "Advanced Trac" on, to some degree. But once you get to a certain level of driving skill, you will want to turn it off in the wet, too. It is too limiting, slows down lap times a lot, even in the wet. OEM traction control systems are SUPER conservative and limiting.
But DO leave the ABS alone - this is a very GOOD system, and it can brake better than any human could dream of. These two pictures above are from a NASA event at COTA, where I was running my E46 BMW (with ABS and a big brake kit) on track with some Miatas, many of which have no ABS (these were some of the last "modern" cars to get ABS as standard). That BMW was fairly low on power in TTD class, and some of the TTE Miatas could almost hang with me... but not under braking. When they tried to brake as late as the ABS equipped BMW, boom! Their inside front tires would lock. This guy took his tire down to cords in one stop. That's what ABS prevents.
Ford's ABS programming on this car is one of the best in the world. The computer can cycle each caliper independently 100s of times a second, to keep the tire right on the verge of lockup. Maximum braking. Of course you won't be "in the ABS" every time, but the confidence of this flawless system will make you faster, as you know you won't ever lock a tire.
The picture above was in our 2018 GT, also at COTA. It became easy to "outbrake" and take huge chunks of track distance away from lighter cars in this 3925 pound pony car. Why? Because our had an immense big brake kit and aggressive pads + one of the best ABS systems in the world. The Ford ABS is so good, any car equipped with the 2005-newer Mustang system is penalized in some classes (NASA American Iron being one such case).
The Ford ABS works great, rain or shine, better than any car GM has ever built. Do not needlessly cripple one THE strongest aspect of these S197 and S550 Mustangs!
Cheers,
Originally posted by zirfj312
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Sure, maybe if its raining and you don't feel comfortable pushing it in the wet, leave the "Advanced Trac" on, to some degree. But once you get to a certain level of driving skill, you will want to turn it off in the wet, too. It is too limiting, slows down lap times a lot, even in the wet. OEM traction control systems are SUPER conservative and limiting.
But DO leave the ABS alone - this is a very GOOD system, and it can brake better than any human could dream of. These two pictures above are from a NASA event at COTA, where I was running my E46 BMW (with ABS and a big brake kit) on track with some Miatas, many of which have no ABS (these were some of the last "modern" cars to get ABS as standard). That BMW was fairly low on power in TTD class, and some of the TTE Miatas could almost hang with me... but not under braking. When they tried to brake as late as the ABS equipped BMW, boom! Their inside front tires would lock. This guy took his tire down to cords in one stop. That's what ABS prevents.
Ford's ABS programming on this car is one of the best in the world. The computer can cycle each caliper independently 100s of times a second, to keep the tire right on the verge of lockup. Maximum braking. Of course you won't be "in the ABS" every time, but the confidence of this flawless system will make you faster, as you know you won't ever lock a tire.
The picture above was in our 2018 GT, also at COTA. It became easy to "outbrake" and take huge chunks of track distance away from lighter cars in this 3925 pound pony car. Why? Because our had an immense big brake kit and aggressive pads + one of the best ABS systems in the world. The Ford ABS is so good, any car equipped with the 2005-newer Mustang system is penalized in some classes (NASA American Iron being one such case).
The Ford ABS works great, rain or shine, better than any car GM has ever built. Do not needlessly cripple one THE strongest aspect of these S197 and S550 Mustangs!
Cheers,
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